Kreator: Terrible Certainty-80’s-1987.

Kreator:Thrash Metal from Germany.


Endless PainFull-length1985
Pleasure to KillFull-length1986
Flag of HateEP1986
Behind the MirrorSingle1987
Terrible CertaintyFull-length1987
Sounds Waves 1Split1988
Out of the Dark… into the LightEP1988
Extreme AggressionFull-length1989
People of the LieSingle1990 
Extreme Aggression Tour 1989/’90 (Live in East Berlin)Video1990
Thrashing EastSplit video1990 
Doomsday News III – Thrashing East LiveSplit1990 
Coma of SoulsFull-length1990
Hallucinative ComasVideo1991 
Cause for ConflictFull-length1995
Scenarios of ViolenceCompilation1996
Leave This World BehindSingle1997 
Endorama / Code RedSplit1999 
Voices of Transgression: A 90s RetrospectiveCompilation1999
Chosen FewSingle2000 
1985-1992 Past Life TraumaCompilation2000
Violent RevolutionFull-length2001
Live KreationLive album2003
Live Kreation – Revisioned GloryVideo2003
Enemy of GodFull-length2005
At the Pulse of Kapitulation – Live in East Berlin 1990Video2008
Hordes of ChaosFull-length2009
Terror Prevails – Live at Rock Hard FestivalLive album2010
Phantom AntichristSingle2012
Terror Prevails – Live at Rock Hard Festival, Pt. 2Live album2012 
Phantom AntichristFull-length2012
Civilization CollapseSingle2012 
The Big Teutonic 4Split2012
Kreator / Legion of the DamnedSplit2013 
Dying AliveLive album2013
Iron DestinySingle2014 
Iron Destiny / Breaking the LawSplit2014 
The Big Teutonic 4 – Part IISplit2015
Love Us or Hate Us – The Very Best of the Noise Years 1985-1992Compilation2016 
Earth Under the SwordSingle2016
Violence UnleashedEP2016
Live AntichristLive album2017
Gods of ViolenceFull-length2017
Man in Black / Warrior HeartSplit2017
Hail to the HordesSingle2017 
Live at Dynamo Open Air 1998Live album2019 
Satan Is Real / Gods of ViolenceSingle2019 
For the HordesEP2019
London Apocalypticon – Live at the RoundhouseLive album2020
London Apocalypticon – Live at the RoundhouseVideo2020 
666 – World DividedSingle2020 
666 – World Divided / CheckmateSplit2020 
Under the GuillotineBoxed set2021 
Under the GuillotineCompilation2021 
Drums (1984-1994, 1996-present), Vocals (1984-1986)
See also: ex-Tormentor, ex-Ninnghizhidda
Mille Petrozza
Vocals, Guitars (1984-present)
See also: ex-Tormentor, ex-Voodoocult
Sami Yli-Sirniö
Guitars (2001-present)
See also: Barren EarthWaltari, ex-Kyyria, ex-Brainwash, ex-In Rags, ex-Jimsonweed
Frédéric Leclercq
Bass (2019-present)
See also: AmahiruLoudblastMenaceSinsaenum, ex-Maladaptive, ex-Memoria, Egoine, ex-DragonForce, ex-Heavenly, ex-Carnival in Coal (live), ex-Machine Head (live), ex-Sabaton (live), ex-Denied, ex-Gods of Hate, ex-Hors Normes, ex-Militia, ex-Sudel’s Project, ex-Suxeed, ex-The Gust

Past Members:

RobBass (1984-1992)
See also: ex-Tormentor
TritzeGuitars (1986-1989)
WulfGuitars (1986)
(R.I.P. 1993) See also: ex-Sodom
Frank BlackfireGuitars (1989-1996)
See also: AssassinFrank BlackfireSodom, ex-Mystic, ex-Wortmord, ex-Widia
Andreas HerzBass (1992-1995)
See also: ex-Slasher, In Rags, ex-Flaming Anger
Joe CangelosiDrums (1994-1996)
See also: Death CorpsUncivil War, ex-Cerebral Hemorrhage, Brooklyn Militia, Carnivore A.D., ex-Massacre, ex-Whiplash, ex-Eliminate, ex-Moondog, ex-The Burn Victims
Christian GieslerBass (1995-2019)
See also: Extinct the Scum, Fore, ex-Darkness
Tommy VetterliGuitars (1996-2001)
See also: 69 ChambersCoroner, ex-Clockwork, ex-Tar Pond
Side A
1.Blind Faith04:10  Show lyrics
2.Storming with Menace04:28  Show lyrics
3.Terrible Certainty04:31  Show lyrics
4.As the World Burns03:51  Show lyrics
Side B
5.Toxic Trace05:35  Show lyrics
6.No Escape05:03  Show lyrics
7.One of Us04:02  Show lyrics
8.Behind the Mirror04:33  Show lyrics

One thought on “Kreator: Terrible Certainty-80’s-1987.

  1. Mercyful Trouble, March 28th, 2021
    Written based on this version: 1987, Cassette, Noise Records

    It’s certainly true that Kreator abandoned their extreme (and boundary pushing) roots going into their third album, 1987’s Terrible Certainty, at this point featuring a tighter and more straightforward thrash metal approach. However, the direction feels natural for a maturing thrash band and there really was no need to attempt to make another Pleasure to Kill- Mille had become a more socially conscious person, so the change in lyrical content on Terrible Certainty only reflects this. Meanwhile, the joining of a new guitarist and the more refined playing and execution from the existing band members feels suitable with the abandonment of crude lyrical themes anyway. To me, it’s similar to what would happen with Sepultura from Brazil once Andreas joined on guitar, going from Morbid Visions to Schizophrenia this same year.

    Endless Pain was a damn cool thrash/black attack that showed ambition, and Pleasure to Kill is a record that every metalhead loves, due largely, I think, to the consistency of the tracklist – all killer, no filler. Classic extreme thrash in every sense! However, I’ll still take the early work of Celtic Frost, Sepultura, Slayer, and Possessed for my 80’s extreme metal, because I do feel that Kreator reached their fullest potential, and most honest creative vision, with albums like Terrible Certainty, Extreme Aggression, and Coma of Souls- you know, their non-extreme thrash albums they released before experimenting with their sound. Terrible Certainty, though, is the first and best album of this era, like a second debut in a way. The ideas are so coherently executed, the riffs cut though like a lawnmower blade through swiss cheese, and every moment exudes passion and intensity in exemplary thrash form. This album isn’t as gloomy or detached as Destruction’s albums circa this period, nor as cruel and outright punishing as Sodom’s, but it is exhilarating in every sense and proves that thrash metal still had plenty of its finest hours to offer going into the later part of the 80’s.

    I generally have a lot less to say about thrash metal than doom metal, but Terrible Certainty is easily in my top 5 thrash albums, so I do have a fair bit to say about it – the first point of which actually happens to be parallel to doom metal circa 1987. The structure of albums like Day of Reckoning by Pentagram are, as vastly different as Kreator may be than such a Sabbath-like group, not dissimilar to Kreator’s structure on Terrible Certainty – you start with a banger or two, before building up to something more involved towards the middle (in this case, the title track and “Toxic Trace”, broken up by the Ventor-sung “As the World Burns”), then having more sublime deep cuts (“One of Us”) and finally closing on a more emotionally powerful note (“Behind the Mirror”). Don’t worry, contrasting this album with dinosaur doom isn’t the meat and potatoes of this review, but that pacing to the intensity here is just something I found interesting, and it is probably something that makes this a doom metal fan’s favorite (or one of their favorite) thrash album(s).

    Songwise, Kreator’s got emotional, dynamic riffing and delivery down to perfection. “Storming With Menace” is the banger most people remember well from this album, and coupled with the preceding opener “Blind Faith”, it’s not at all hard to see why. Both have unforgettable refrains, with Blind Faith relying more on Mille’s vocal delivery and Storming relying more on an unnerving progression. Both of the first two songs here would make a very cool 7″ and that would still be a 10/10 thrash release in my book. The title track has more buildup to it (see the intense opening riff) but is also somehow more immediate with the main hook and familiar chorus. However, my favorite instrumental segment on this album has to be the beginning of “Toxic Trace”, which makes “Tornado of Souls” by Megadeth sound less like a technical thrash marvel and more like wanking buffoonery with no balls, which it’s not, but Toxic Trace still blows it out of the water compositionally. It’s also the perfect balance of a relentless assault (especially the jaw-dropping chorus) and a more sophisticated approach. Certainly, the palm-muted riffs played primarily on the A and D strings break up the unforgiving thrashiness while still being interesting due to a curious feel. “No Escape” has elements of melodicism to it, but not in an overbearing way, because if you bring up this album to any veteran thrasher, they’ll mention No Escape as a highlight and a prime example of what made thrash classics like Terrible Certainty so charismatic and unforgettable.

    This is, bar none, the definition of ridiculously enjoyable and well-calculated thrash. When it comes to thrash with sublime musicianship and songwriting ideas, many albums are brought up before Terrible Certainty, and Coma of Souls is usually thought to be Kreator’s technical peak, but the third album is somehow just the right balance of technicality and unadulterated fury. Everything here serves a purpose and goes in a coherent direction. Essential thrash!


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